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Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:15 am
by leotreves
Preach.

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 2:18 pm
by Kashimura
Yeah, I had seen some guys like that. I do not have joy to play like that. I can not do nothing to get the key items, when playing with "turbores". I can just follow he/she/them and help with some shots.

Yes me too, it suck when we have a team with "turbores" player without waiting or let other player to do something because it's a Co-Op game not lonelywolf mode.
These players are not using turbo. They are using a faster loading setup which is completely allowed and any one can do using PCSX2 emulator. It is called OPL+HDD (HDL install). It requires you to enable the emulated HDD, install the game discs using HDL (HDD Loader) and NOT the in-game "HDD Install" option. Additionally there is an option in OPL under the individual game settings to enable Video Skip (though i haven't noticed it to increase speed and it does not automatically skip videos - you still need to press the button to manually skip).

Again i repeat this set-up is allowed. If you do not want players with faster loading or HDL to join your room you could specify something like "No Fast loading" or "No HDL install" etc in your room title...

If you are playing on real PS2 console i suggest using a Fat PS2 with internal HDD with games installed using HDL.ELF. You will find you waste less of your playing time on loading screens and door transitions. And it is only slightly slower than the PCSX2 setup i mentioned above.

If you are playing on PS2 console using USB drive your load times will be even x3 longer than playing from DVD, so little wonder that others will appear to already be 2 rooms away from you by the time you have finished loading. I see this all the time and have seen players who take the same time to load as i do (so i know are not turboing, i.e. using F4 on PCSX2) accused aggressively by other players of cheating with turbo use. Server lag will often add to this effect and look like players/enemies are teleporting around.

I agree though that in some places players using fast loading set-ups need to be mindful that enemies may be waiting right next to slow loading players characters because of the delay. Hellfire start is one example of this. A fastload player will already have had time to enter Boiler Room, trigger cutscene and go through the door blocked by the zombie sitting against it before very slow loading players even load into the start room. If i see anyone is still loading up in this room when i come back in then i wait and keep the zombie away from them until they do load in and start moving...

In the end it is better, if you can, to just get a faster loading set-up and avoid having to complain about others making it difficult for you...;).

I have yet to witness personally any verified turbo using player, but that does not mean it doesn't happen...
I know about this setups, but I not just it. At Wild Things I catch when the zombies are close than me and faster get way. And like instantly teleported far from me and others. And I dcded two times when things like this happen. Well, I will pay more attention and keep my eyes opened.

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 4:26 pm
by IgusaTaro
That player is not necessarily using the turbo.
He may be using cheats.
With the turbo, the enemy moves fast for him.
It is possible to change the speed of the person's feet.
The videos are all played offline (single).
https://youtu.be/r9i4VyAARKg
It is possible make a person bigger
https://youtu.be/hqqYzPvUxcE

In that case, the person's stride becomes wider and he can run faster.
Even if the person's body gets bigger, it looks normal to other players.
If he used this cheat, he would jump like a time lag from your point of view.

He rejoices if you get angry.
The more players in the OBSRV, the more rogue players.
Laugh and have fun even if you find a rogue player.
They soon get bored and disappear.

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 9:40 pm
by hill73n
That player is not necessarily using the turbo.
He may be using cheats.
With the turbo, the enemy moves fast for him.
It is possible to change the speed of the person's feet.
The videos are all played offline (single).
https://youtu.be/r9i4VyAARKg
It is possible make a person bigger
https://youtu.be/hqqYzPvUxcE

In that case, the person's stride becomes wider and he can run faster.
Even if the person's body gets bigger, it looks normal to other players.
If he used this cheat, he would jump like a time lag from your point of view.

He rejoices if you get angry.
The more players in the OBSRV, the more rogue players.
Laugh and have fun even if you find a rogue player.
They soon get bored and disappear.
Thanks for the explanation. Good to know...and good advice :)).
But i know that this is often not the case and is why i gave a lengthy explanation about fast-loading set-ups ;).

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Tue Apr 14, 2020 2:43 am
by Lambada
States_FreezeCurrentSlot = Ctrl-F1
States_DefrostCurrentSlot = Ctrl-F3
States_DefrostCurrentSlotBackup = Ctrl-Shift-F3
States_CycleSlotForward = Ctrl-F2
States_CycleSlotBackward = Ctrl-Shift-F2

Frameskip_Toggle = Ctrl-Shift-F4
Framelimiter_TurboToggle = Ctrl-TAB
Framelimiter_SlomoToggle = Ctrl-Shift-TAB
Framelimiter_MasterToggle = Ctrl-F4

FullscreenToggle = Alt-ENTER

Sys_Suspend = PAUSE

Thanks for the tip!

I should add:
Sys_RecordingToggle = Ctrl-F12

That way I can use Steam to take a screenshot.

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Tue Apr 28, 2020 3:20 am
by GabrielAksnes
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Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Sun Nov 15, 2020 10:52 am
by gorgonklinge
It makes me wonder why that sh*t is actualy an option in the Emulator? I mean, for what logical reason would you need an Option to fast forward the Game? From what i understood so far, thats all the Turbo does.

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 1:25 am
by wictorious
It makes me wonder why that sh*t is actualy an option in the Emulator? I mean, for what logical reason would you need an Option to fast forward the Game? From what i understood so far, thats all the Turbo does.
Its useful in games like RPGs where you want to quickly go through dialogue or menus or grind out battles faster than usual. It has its uses, OB just isn't one of them.

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Wed Jun 02, 2021 5:32 pm
by bobhasshotguns
Really hope this is fixed, good luck while playing everyone! :D :D