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Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Tue Oct 01, 2019 11:51 pm
by UlviFox
I would like to mention: Those who use the tracker. If you by any point not being able to skip cutscene, nor could anyone else, but the tracker is showing someone is still going from room to room and picking up items, taking damage all the sudden (not the same room of course but elsewhere). It's a sign that they are using Turbo to skip past the cutscene. Always make sure to look at your tracker if the cutscene isn't moving. Unless all 3 other players could move but not you. Which has been happening few times on File#1 s:

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 2:06 am
by Silent Hell
I would like to point out that it's not entirely out of the question for someone to skip a cutscene and everyone else not being able to. Back when I was on PS2, I'd be able to skip the cutscene while my friends could not.

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 1:34 pm
by leotreves
This tends to happen A LOT on File 1

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:12 pm
by Herbivore
This tends to happen A LOT on File 1
If you load into a File 1 portal as a cutscene starts, you won't be able to skip but everyone else will.

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Tue Oct 15, 2019 8:22 pm
by Tenebris Vega
oooooohhhhhh I figured as much, reminds me of AndySussanto he used turbo in the CGIs and charge ahead, but that was 3-4 years ago, we didn't even had CLR DEV9 and EMUs where shunned in the server for the ZS. there's so many methods for faster loading that turbo is an no go, its retarded and the hammer should be dropped for sure.

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Wed Oct 16, 2019 1:52 pm
by leotreves
reminds me of AndySussanto he used ti turbo the CGIs and charge ahead
lmao but Andy was sooooooo helpful Image

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Thu Oct 17, 2019 9:13 pm
by Tenebris Vega
reminds me of AndySussanto he used ti turbo the CGIs and charge ahead
lmao but Andy was sooooooo helpful Image
LMAO :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :)) :))

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Mon Oct 21, 2019 4:39 pm
by Koblasco
I didn't even know this was a thing.
How widespread is it?

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Mon Mar 02, 2020 11:20 pm
by Kashimura
I played with some players that have a very good speed when pass by the door. Is like an instantly teleport. When I open I need to wait the load, but they (I mean the users) at the same time which open them is at the other side. This is turbo/framelimit or any modified ISO?

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:13 am
by leotreves
I played with some players that have a very good speed when pass by the door. Is like an instantly teleport. When I open I need to wait the load, but they (I mean the users) at the same time which open them is at the other side. This is turbo/framelimit or any modified ISO?
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Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:16 am
by Noel Erlando
I played with some players that have a very good speed when pass by the door. Is like an instantly teleport. When I open I need to wait the load, but they (I mean the users) at the same time which open them is at the other side. This is turbo/framelimit or any modified ISO?
They probably using HDD Loader, if you wanna see a turboing player... you should see they running with you in the same place, If that player running like a ghost rider and so fast like a vampire, they probably turbo it.

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:16 am
by Noel Erlando
I played with some players that have a very good speed when pass by the door. Is like an instantly teleport. When I open I need to wait the load, but they (I mean the users) at the same time which open them is at the other side. This is turbo/framelimit or any modified ISO?
They probably using HDD Loader, if you wanna see a turboing player... you should see they running with you in the same place, If that player running like a ghost rider and so fast like a vampire, they probably turbo it.

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:26 pm
by Kashimura
I played with some players that have a very good speed when pass by the door. Is like an instantly teleport. When I open I need to wait the load, but they (I mean the users) at the same time which open them is at the other side. This is turbo/framelimit or any modified ISO?
They probably using HDD Loader, if you wanna see a turboing player... you should see they running with you in the same place, If that player running like a ghost rider and so fast like a vampire, they probably turbo it.
Yeah, I had seen some guys like that. I do not have joy to play like that. I can not do nothing to get the key items, when playing with "turbores". I can just follow he/she/them and help with some shots.

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 1:38 am
by Noel Erlando
I played with some players that have a very good speed when pass by the door. Is like an instantly teleport. When I open I need to wait the load, but they (I mean the users) at the same time which open them is at the other side. This is turbo/framelimit or any modified ISO?
They probably using HDD Loader, if you wanna see a turboing player... you should see they running with you in the same place, If that player running like a ghost rider and so fast like a vampire, they probably turbo it.
Yeah, I had seen some guys like that. I do not have joy to play like that. I can not do nothing to get the key items, when playing with "turbores". I can just follow he/she/them and help with some shots.

Yes me too, it suck when we have a team with "turbores" player without waiting or let other player to do something because it's a Co-Op game not lonelywolf mode.

Re: ZERO TOLERANCE POLICY ON USING TURBO/DISABLING THE FRAMELIMITER

Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:30 am
by hill73n


They probably using HDD Loader, if you wanna see a turboing player... you should see they running with you in the same place, If that player running like a ghost rider and so fast like a vampire, they probably turbo it.
Yeah, I had seen some guys like that. I do not have joy to play like that. I can not do nothing to get the key items, when playing with "turbores". I can just follow he/she/them and help with some shots.

Yes me too, it suck when we have a team with "turbores" player without waiting or let other player to do something because it's a Co-Op game not lonelywolf mode.
These players are not using turbo. They are using a faster loading setup which is completely allowed and any one can do using PCSX2 emulator. It is called OPL+HDD (HDL install). It requires you to enable the emulated HDD, install the game discs using HDL (HDD Loader) and NOT the in-game "HDD Install" option. Additionally there is an option in OPL under the individual game settings to enable Video Skip (though i haven't noticed it to increase speed and it does not automatically skip videos - you still need to press the button to manually skip).

Again i repeat this set-up is allowed. If you do not want players with faster loading or HDL to join your room you could specify something like "No Fast loading" or "No HDL install" etc in your room title...

If you are playing on real PS2 console i suggest using a Fat PS2 with internal HDD with games installed using HDL.ELF. You will find you waste less of your playing time on loading screens and door transitions. And it is only slightly slower than the PCSX2 setup i mentioned above.

If you are playing on PS2 console using USB drive your load times will be even x3 longer than playing from DVD, so little wonder that others will appear to already be 2 rooms away from you by the time you have finished loading. I see this all the time and have seen players who take the same time to load as i do (so i know are not turboing, i.e. using F4 on PCSX2) accused aggressively by other players of cheating with turbo use. Server lag will often add to this effect and look like players/enemies are teleporting around.

I agree though that in some places players using fast loading set-ups need to be mindful that enemies may be waiting right next to slow loading players characters because of the delay. Hellfire start is one example of this. A fastload player will already have had time to enter Boiler Room, trigger cutscene and go through the door blocked by the zombie sitting against it before very slow loading players even load into the start room. If i see anyone is still loading up in this room when i come back in then i wait and keep the zombie away from them until they do load in and start moving...

In the end it is better, if you can, to just get a faster loading set-up and avoid having to complain about others making it difficult for you...;).

I have yet to witness personally any verified turbo using player, but that does not mean it doesn't happen...